October 09, 2004

Second Presidential Debate, 1

Bush won. Not in a slam-dunk kind of way, but he won.

Some key moments:

1) When Kerry was trying to address the fact that we haven't had any major terrorist attacks since 9/11. This fact is one of his biggest weaknesses, and he knows it.

2) Kerry's handling of the stem-cell research question and the Federal funding of abortion question. In both instances he professed respect for life, and then essentially told the questioners to fuck off. With a lot of blah, blah, blah added in. This was one of the best opportunities for people to see through his lawyerly talk.

3) That moment when Kerry looked around the room and proclaimed that—from the looks of it—only he, the President, and Charlie made more than $200K a year among the people in that room. It seemed clear to me that he was making a classist judgment about what someone might look like who makes good money. As an Angeleno, I found it rather bizarre that one could presume to tell from someone's dress what sort of income they are pulling down. He might well have been correct, but his methodology was essentially a snobby one, and his outlook was very East Coast.

4) Bush's "timber" joke. It was the best line of the evening, and it broke through the audience's resistance to laughter (I suspect they had been instructed not to audibly react to what Bush and Kerry were saying).

5) The closing statements. Kerry stayed in one place and delivered some sort of little canned speech. In the background, a woman looked like she was slightly too bored to really be contemptuous of him. Very static.

When Bush gave his closing statement he walked around a little, and was animated. His entire demeanor was different from Kerry's.

The format, stilted as it was, played to Bush's strengths.

Posted by Attila at October 9, 2004 09:08 AM
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I'm assuming your speaking of the rather large woman in white, right over Kerry's shoulder? Bored was a s good as it got for her when Kerry was speaking. There were other times she went from contemptuous to out and out hatred.

It was kinda fun to watch actually.

Posted by: frinklin at October 9, 2004 11:11 AM


What I liked was how she was perfectly framed during his closing statement. The Kerry people aren't going to want to show clips from that.

Bush thwarted anyone spoiling his footage by walking around. And he looked better doing that. And his statement was was better.

Now for a test, to see how my links are showing up in the comments section.

Posted by: Attila Girl at October 9, 2004 05:51 PM


I thought President Bush did will the first debate and he did well this debate. The most telling time was after the debate when almost everyone there wanted to meet the President and the First Lady. Do you see how accommodating they both were? Most of the people there will remember meeting and getting a picture of the President and the First Lady more then the debate. Who really is the favourite canadate?

Posted by: Bradley at October 9, 2004 10:32 PM


I did see the Secret Service frustrated by their attempts to cordon the First Couple off--it seemed that they were being waved away a lot by George and Laura.

Posted by: Attila Girl at October 10, 2004 10:42 AM


One part I enjoyed from last night was the moment when Bush cut off Charlie Rangel when Bush wished to respond to something Kerry had alleged about the president. I thought that was actually quite presidential. Cut the person off when you think something important absolutely must be stated. I was afraid it would place Rangel trying to show up Bush later on but thankfully it didn't occur.

Posted by: CTDeLude at October 10, 2004 12:16 PM


Gibson. Charlie Gibson. There's been a lot of discussion of that moment: I thought it played well, but many thought Bush just looked rude.

Posted by: Attila Girl at October 10, 2004 09:46 PM


Have no idea how Rangel popped up into my head there but people who think Bush was rude obviously haven't seen much proper authority in their life. He's the president, Mr. Gibson is simply a reporter, the president wanting to answer something (and still within the debate guidelines) takes precedent in my mind.

Posted by: CTDeLude at October 11, 2004 05:47 PM




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