Attila... thank you. I'm glad that any small thoughts I might have are helpful.

Keeping the victims and their families in prayer...

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When a government goes to war and it is senseless and without justification. Then there is an increase in violence in the country that is the aggressor. The rationale behind it is that Anger is multiplying and the law of universal Karma states that you get back what you put out. Whats with all these innocent people dying in the US? I say it is the direct result of our involvement in IRAQ. Stop the madness over there and it will stop here. We are now experiencing the indirect cost of the war. Human life is devalued when a nation goes to war without justification.

Azmat;

You're wrong, it's because the newspapers and tv are glorifing these actions. After the initial attack the victims are forgotten but the attacker is pictured and rumenated over for years. Oh dear,... we have to find out why he did it, what was he thinking, etc.

Thank god the ACLU isn't going to save this piece of trash.

And p.s. there were lots of reasons to go after Iraq, like shooting at our jets weekly, violating all of the UN mandates etc..

And p.p.s. Karma works both ways, think of the USA as bringing Karma to Sadam for all of his torture, rapes, and killings. Sadam is the one who devalued human life. The USA is just Karma's way of telling Sadam and his sons they were wrong and to die. And now were just bringing Karma to all those Islamic fascists.

Oh well then...If it never happened before 2003 I guess we should pull out! Wait. What about that seldom-heard-of incident called "Columbine"? (1999)....Or that wacko in Montreal? or..
• April 24, 2003: 14-year-old James Sheets shot and killed the principal in the crowded cafeteria of a junior high school in south-central Pennsylvania, before killing himself.

• May 26, 2000: 13-year-old Nathaniel Brazill killed his English teacher on the last day of classes in Lake Worth, Fla., after the teacher refused to let him talk with two girls in his classroom. He was convicted of second-degree murder and is serving a 28-year sentence.

• May 21, 1998: Two teenagers were killed and more than 20 people hurt when a teenage boy opened fire at a high school in Springfield, Ore., after killing his parents. Kip Kinkel, 17, was sentenced to nearly 112 years in prison.

• May 19, 1998: Three days before his graduation, an honor student opened fire at a high school in Fayetteville, Tenn., killing a classmate who was dating his ex-girlfriend. Jacob Davis, 18, was sentenced to life in prison.

• March 24, 1998: Two boys, ages 11 and 13, fired on their Jonesboro, Ark., middle school from nearby woods, killing four girls and a teacher and wounding 10 others. Both boys were later convicted of murder and can be held until age 21.

• Dec. 1, 1997: Three students were killed and five wounded at a high school in West Paducah, Ky. Michael Carneal, then 14, later pleaded guilty but mentally ill to murder and is serving life in prison.

• Oct. 1, 1997: Sixteen-year-old Luke Woodham of Pearl, Miss., fatally shot two students and wounded seven others after stabbing his mother to death. He was sentenced the following year to three life sentences.

March 5, 2001: 15-year-old freshman opens fire with .22-calibre pistol at Santana High School in Santee, Calif., killing two students and injuring 13 others.

Jan. 10, 2001: 17-year-old gunman fires shots at Hueneme High School in Oxnard, Calif., before taking female student hostage. He is later shot and killed by police.

May 26, 2000: 13-year-old honours student shoots and kills teacher on last day of classes in Lake Worth, Fla.

April 20, 2000: Four students and one staff member wounded in knife attack at Cairine Wilson High School in Orleans, Ont. Occurs on first anniversary of Columbine massacre.

Feb. 29, 2000: Six-year-old boy shoots six-year-old girl to death in Grade 1 classroom at Buell Elementary School in Mount Morris Township, Mich. Because of his age, boy is not charged.

Dec. 6, 1999: 13-year-old student fires at least 15 shots at Fort Gibson Middle School in Fort Gibson, Okla., wounding four classmates.

Nov. 19, 1999: 12-year-old boy shoots 13-year-old girl in head at school in Deming, N.M. Girl dies next day.

May 20, 1999: 15-year-old boy opens fire at Heritage High School in Conyers, Ga., with .357-calibre Magnum and rifle, wounding six students.

April 28, 1999: 14-year-old boy shoots two students, one fatally, at W.R. Myers High School in Taber, Alta.

April 20, 1999: Two heavily armed teenagers rampage through Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., killing 12 students and one teacher before committing suicide.

April 16, 1999: High school sophomore fires two shotgun blasts in school hallway in Notus, Idaho. No one injured.

Feb. 8, 1999: Man fires shot at Woodland Elementary School in Verdun, Que. No one injured.

May 21, 1998: 17-year-old boy kills parents, then goes to high school in Springfield, Ore., on shooting rampage, killing two teens and wounding more than 20 people.

May 19, 1998: 18-year-old honours student opens fire at high school in Fayetteville, Tenn., killing classmate who was dating his ex-girlfriend.

April 24, 1998: 15-year-old boy opens fire at eighth-grade dance in Edinboro, Pa., killing teacher.

March 24, 1998: Four girls and teacher shot to death and 10 people wounded during false fire alarm at middle school in Jonesboro, Ark., when two boys, 11 and 13, open fire from woods.

Dec. 1, 1997: Three students die and five wounded at Heath High School in West Paducah, Ky., after 14-year-old boy opens fire.

October 1997: 35-year-old man fatally shoots teacher at Montreal language school for immigrants.

Oct. 1, 1997: 16-year-old boy in Pearl, Miss., shoots two students to death and wounds seven others after stabbing his mother to death.

Feb. 19, 1997: 16-year-old boy takes shotgun and bag of shells to school in Bethel, Alaska, killing principal and student and wounding two others.

October 1994: Two guidance counsellors at Brockton High School in Toronto shot and wounded by student unhappy with grades.

June 1993: Teen wounded outside Gladstone Secondary School in Vancouver in drive-by shooting.

Aug. 24, 1992: Valery Fabrikant, professor at Concordia University in Montreal, goes on shooting rampage at school, killing four colleagues and wounding one.

February 1990: Jilted teenager shoots and wounds estranged girlfriend at General Brock High School in Burlington, Ont.

December 1989: Marc Lepine, 25, shoots dead 14 women at University of Montreal's Ecole polytechnique engineering school, then kills himself.

October 1978: 17-year-old student shoots 16-year-old to death at Sturgeon Creek Regional Secondary School in Winnipeg.

May 1975: Michael Slobodian, 16, kills teacher and student and wounds 13 others at Centennial Secondary School in Brampton, Ont., before turning gun on himself.

Forget what I said! Let's stay the course in Iraq and Afghanistan and send the Islamofascists to the dustbin of history.

Before that US has attacked forty-five different countries since WW II.

So you get the message Darrell

And then you have that 2 amendment, the right to arm bears.

Are there bears in Indiana? I hope so.

45? List them.

Self-defense may be the most important human right. Oddly enough, if I had to choose I'd subordinate it only to the right to speak freely . . .

azmat;

That 2nd amendment is what keeps the first amendment from going bye bye.

azmat;

And how many wars have Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Saudia Arabia and all of those other arab countries fought between each other since, oh say in the last 2000 years. Oh yeah, they never have stopped only had long cease fires while they re-arm.

You assumtions are heavily biased by your bias and hatred of America.

Jack and your answer to anyone who disagrees with you is that they hate America. If I hated it so much why would I contribute to making it better. You would rather keep it the same, because you are so cynical and arrogant, that you think it cannot be made better.

Yes I can see how Panama, Grenada, were a threat to the United States. And why out of fear and self defense the United States must strike at these countries. Also do not forget that your own president has accnowledged that Iraq was not a threat to the US. \"But that doesn\'t mean Sadam was not a bad guy\"

Someday, the second amendment will go bye bye, I tell you that day is not too far. The justification will be that we have terrorists in the US and we cannot give them the right to bear arms. Tell me ten years from now that you heard it from me first.

Azmat, how do you feel about the Second Amendment?