March 30, 2007

On Forbidden Words.

Verity Kindle objects over on this thread to the use of the word "papist" by someone who referred to themselves as a "recovering papist."

The problem being, as he/she sees it, that the word suggests we worship the Pope. Hey—I thought we worshipped the Virgin Mary. And the Saints. And golden calves. Guess I've been doing it all wrong.

You know how I am about language, though: making any word verboten goes against my grain, because it empowers that word and makes it more hurtful simply by being forbidden. So, once more: shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits, nigger, kike, spic, faggot, skirt, heeb, whore, mick, lezzie, redneck, gook, chink, slut, wetback. Wingnut. Leftard. Papist.

(Now the Ann Coulter defenders are going to get on my case, on the basis that she only used a transgressive noun. That is not, of course, how I see it: I feel that she applied a perjorative term for homosexual—listed above—to a heterosexual, married man. In public. With cameras rolling. At an event I'd like to take itself more seriously than it sometimes does. So, yes: that was different.)

If anyone is entitled to use the term "papist," it would be a cradle Catholic, whether or not that person is still in the Church.

It's people of faith—Muslims, ironically, being sometimes an exception—who are marginalized the most in society today. I think we can take it as a given that any rocks being thrown around by the devout of any mainstream faith are either (1) done in a spirit of jest, or (2) the mark of idiots.

I can't define true religious slurs. But I know them when I see them.

Posted by Attila Girl at March 30, 2007 10:57 AM | TrackBack
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I AM a cradle catholic. It was a scandal in 1918 when the daughter of a fronteer Hugonout married the son of a German catholic farmer.
Growing up, we attended mass on a regular basis, went to catacasm, was comformed and attend Fatama festavals.
In adulthood, I became a neo-pagan environmntalist. Then became "born again" and went through my own reformation. Sola Scriptura vs transtubastation of the eurocurist (sp?)
Now I am a proud fronteer cavlvanist. Who has studied history especally the Counter-Reformation. I thought Papist, Popery, Romish, and Mackeral snapper meant the same thing: catholic. I only used Papist because I couldn't spell Mackeral snapper.

Posted by: Bloggermouth at March 30, 2007 03:36 PM


1) Do you think all Catholics aren't saved?

2) Are you a five-point Calvanist? TULIP, with no reservations whatsoever?

Posted by: Attila Girl at March 30, 2007 06:23 PM


Those are good questions.
First, Jesus told us not to speculae on such issues. He said it was his job, not ours. I do belive that the catholic faith is full of herecy. But there are sincere belivers who lead good Christian lives.
My father was such a man. He was a good catholic. He led a good life, was a good provider, worked hard and had few vices.
I rest comfortably in knowing where he is now.
We also buried my aunt a couple weeks ago. She was a very sweet lady, (my favorite aunt), caring, and up on all the issues. She was involved in what appeares to be a very liberal wing of the catholic church. Up in Seattle. My cousins flew her down here to lay her to rest with about 4 generations of my family.
Are Catholics saved? Well I don't know. Compare people like Nancy Pelosi to Alan Keyes. Both are catholic and as diffrent as night an day.

2, I'll have to google the 5 points to give you an answer on that. I know my paster has issues with them. I am more of a historian than a theologian.
A banner above the pulpet says: "Remember the old ways, where there is the good way and walk therein." We go through the King James Bible from cover to cover, trying to press the Crown Rights of Jesus into all areas of life. We study the lives of our Pilgrim and Puriton fathers and the Founding Fathers, the constitution other founding documents. We homeschool, stay out of debt and avoid taking out licenses.

Posted by: Bloggermouth at April 1, 2007 06:54 AM


This is Bob Zone in the Bob Zone Sports Zone. We have the results of the "Sweet 14" round of the 2007 Forbidden Words National Championships brought to by 'Asslicker' who just missed making the Sex Acts/Sex Actors team when, in the final seconds of qualifying, one of his patented flick shots bounced off her rim.........uh, the rim:

And speaking of Sex Acts/Sex Actors, they eliminated Waste Matter by a score of 3 to 2. In an earlier match, Number Two defeated Number One by the obvious score.

Body Parts sweated out a win over African-Americans, 2 to 1.

Jews and Latinos/Hispanics dueled to a 2-2 tie. Then they went out to eat and drink respectively.

Homosexuals edged out Women 2 to 1, still felt oppressed and staged a post-game protest.

The Sexually Free defeated the Irish 2 to 1 in a match that featured acts with beer, a keg-tap and baked potatoes that defy description.

Asians out-strategized Southern-Americans by finding the venue for their match.

Political Activists bested the Religious 2 to 1. In this reporters opinion, until these two teams are disbanded, we all lose.

That's it from Bob Zone in the Bob Zone Sports Zone. This is me, Bob Zone, zoning out.

Posted by: Hog Beatty at April 2, 2007 01:18 AM


Please explain this one to me Little Miss Attila: you and I were both able to freely use all the words anyone that logs onto this blog can see and, yet, your "Spam Filter" forced me to change the written out (alpha version) word to the numeric '14' because of the last four letters?! What kind of arbitrary, inconsistent, hypocritical bullshit is that? Who are you protecting and from what?

Posted by: Hog Beatty at April 2, 2007 01:27 AM


Sorry. Fluffy the spam filter gets a bit overzealous at times.

Posted by: Attila Girl at April 2, 2007 01:47 AM


So it's okay with Fluffy if I write about sex with a 19 year old girl and not a nine**** year old girl?

Posted by: Hog Beatty at April 2, 2007 02:01 AM


Fluffy is only looking for phrases that have come up from comment spam in the past. That would indicate that the word that isn't-quite-tween is awfully popular among those who purvey tasteful artistic representations of the sex act.

My favorite thing is that on some people's comment boards the word "socialist" can't be used because of the drug name embedded in the middle. (Let's see if it flies this time.)

Posted by: Attila Girl at April 2, 2007 02:23 AM




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