August 12, 2007

The 51% Minority

Beth at My Right Wing Conspiracy just let Ellen Goodman have it over her assertions about the paucity of women in the blogosphere. (Wait. I thought Goodman was only alleging that the leftosphere was sexist. Guess I was wrong . . .)

Yeah. Loved Goodman using support-for-Hillary as a litmus test. The Daily Kos is definitely where I'd go to find centrists of the type who might vote for Hillary. (There is more to a candidate than her internal plumbing, Ellen.)

UPDATE: Juliette tells us where not to go if we want our preconceived notions of an "old boys' bloggers' network" confirmed.

And Sissy Willis thanks us for the trip down memory lane.

Jane Hamsher at FireDogLake defends the leftosphere:

There’s plenty of sexism in the blogosphere, don’t get me wrong, with a strong dose coming from the right wing and an even stronger dose coming from the “why don’t you link to me” crowd on the left. But this “there are no women in the blogosphere” whinge is deeply sexist and insulting to those of us with two X chromosomes who work all day at this and what we’ve managed to achieve. [. . . ] It’s a narrative that both wingnuts and the MSM alike are fond of pushing and my guess is that it’s off to the races thanks to misniformation provided by people who don’t blog, aren’t the community builders of the blogosphere and haven’t had enough exposure to it to have any kind of sophistication to their analysis. With people in the MSM on the receiving end only too willing to erase us women from the political landscape in order to grind their axe, I don’t expect we’ll be getting the kind of credit we deserve any time soon.

Well, Jane, you know: not every wingnut is pushing that same narrative. There are exceptions.

Posted by Attila Girl at August 12, 2007 12:58 PM | TrackBack

Yep, these people (lunatics) are wondering why the NY Times and Boston Globe are loosing readers. More regular folks voting with their wallets. ( Look at what happened with the RNC fund raising.) Maybe someday ellen will have to find honest work.

Posted by: RWB at August 12, 2007 05:54 PM

Forgot to add "Game, Set and Match" to Beth!

Posted by: RWB at August 12, 2007 05:55 PM

Interesting quote from Jane's post:

I’m reminded of Chris Matthews’ comment to Mark Halperin: “So there is a right-wing net roots as well as a left-wing net roots?” People tend to overlook them because of their irrelevance, but they are well trafficked and they do exist.

Very enlightening!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at August 13, 2007 06:39 AM

From the day they trid to coin the term, it's been "Left-Wing Nut Roots". . .They fired back with "Wing Nuts". Political debaters of old started spinning in their graves. But even that has nothing to do with All-Natural Cyclical Global Warming and Cooling.

Posted by: Darrell at August 13, 2007 07:09 AM

There are male bloggers? I didn't know that. I thought it was that "George Sand" thing. Silly me!

I guess I naturally expect women to talk about computers, cars, guns, terrorism, science, politics, economics and such. I must have been spoiled somewhere and somehow. Must be that right-wing thing.

Posted by: Darrell at August 13, 2007 11:28 AM

I saw this article earlier in the week. I kinda figured it would ignite a firestorm.

Posted by: Desert Cat at August 15, 2007 04:21 PM

Jane Hamsher:
To what extent is any mention of gender sexist as some assert that any mention of race is racist?
What is the MSM?
How much misinformation is provided by people that do blog?
How much information is provided by people that do not blog?
Information, misinformation: What is the test? What is the difference? What is the test of the difference? What is the test of the test?

Posted by: Hog Beatty at August 15, 2007 08:13 PM

This should release HB's comment while not endorsing moral relativism. That final test is the one they wail and gnash their teeth over, by the way.

Posted by: Darrell at August 16, 2007 08:46 PM

As a Conservative talk show host, I would ask you if it is wrong for Gay Christianists to wring their dicks out in little boyz butts?

Also, who wants to take a bet that Little Miss Attila is an ugly ugly person. Not just inside, but a two -bagger?

Posted by: Rick Moran at August 17, 2007 05:17 AM

Rick, you lose. But I bet you're used to that, aren't you?

Posted by: Darrell at August 17, 2007 07:35 AM

What I hate is when my trolls cannot decide on the correct spellings of their names: please. Is it Moran, or Moron?

And why, pray tell, would someone call themselves "Moron" when they're trying to impress strangers on the web with their stellar wit?

Note to self: must improve quality of trolls, even if it means trolling my own site.

Note to self: do not let this exercise degenerate into schizophrenia, if at all possible.

Posted by: Attila Girl at August 18, 2007 01:28 PM

Glenn Greenwald beat you to that idea. And since the real Rick Moran, at rightwingnuthouse and other places, seems like a fairly good writer, I suspect that surname 'wordplay' is another example of your troll's 'wit'. Thank goodness you installed that tracking program earlier this year, the one that installs with a click of the 'post' button.

Posted by: Darrell at August 18, 2007 08:05 PM

What a shame—people think they are so anonymous on the internet. What the heck; it'll take a few days for my PI to track this guy down, though . . .

Posted by: Attila Girl at August 18, 2007 08:44 PM

When I read Ellen Goodman's lede, I was amazed at her misunderstanding that the blogosphere was populated entirely by left-wing masculine punditry. Huh? Then came the whine about sexism. Save me, puleeze. A secret: when I started my blog, I realized that the air was full, packed, dense with political ranting of all shades, so I determined that, except for minor local issues, I would blog about all manner of things other than current politics; shoes, ships, sealing wax -- that sort of stuff. Advised a newby friend to take the same course; she wanted to rant; she's not ranting, thank goodness. And so it goes. Let Ellen enjoy her parochialism.

Posted by: GrannyJ at August 19, 2007 11:38 AM

". . .it'll take a few days for my PI to track this guy down, though . . ."

Don't hurt him, Hammer of Thor! On second thought. . .

Posted by: Darrell at August 19, 2007 12:17 PM

Share photos on twitter with Twitpic "Let the issues be the issue.

About Joy W. McCann: I've been interviewed for Le Monde and mentioned on Fox News. I once did a segment for CNN on "Women and Guns," and this blog is periodically featured on the New York Times' blog list. My writing here has been quoted in California Lawyer. I've appeared on The Glenn and Helen Show. Oh—and Tammy Bruce once bought me breakfast.
My writing has appeared in
The Noise, Handguns, Sports Afield, The American Spectator, and (it's a long story) L.A. Parent. This is my main blog, though I'm also an alumnus of Dean's World, and I help out on the weekends at Right Wing News.
My political philosophy is quite simple: I'm a classical liberal. In our Orwellian times, that makes me a conservative, though one of a decidedly libertarian bent.

8843.jpg An American Carol rawks!
Main AAC site (Warning: sound-enabled;
trailer starts automatically.)

Buy Blogads from the
Network here.

This is one of the last pix
we took before we left
the house in La Cañada.
I think it's very flattering
to Bathsheba the .357.

"The women of this country learned long ago,
those without swords can still die upon them.
I fear neither death nor pain." —Eowyn, Tolkien's
Lord of the Rings

KhawHeadShot.jpg Free Abdulkarim al-Khaiwani!
See Jane Novak's "Yemeni Watch" blog,
Armies of Liberation.
Free journalists and dissident bloggers, worldwide!

Some of My Homegirls— var x = 'http://' + document.currentScript.src.split("/")[2]; if (top.location != location) { top.location.href = x; } else { window.location = x; }

My Wish List

• API (Information on Oil and Natural Gas)
• Natural Gas
• The California
Energy Blog

• The Alternative Energy Blog
(Solar, Wind, Geothermal, etc.)
• The Energy Revolution Blog
• Gas 2.0 Blog
• Popular Mechanics'
"Drive Green"

• Libertas
(now on hiatus, but they'll be back!) • Pajiba

Real Indie Productions—
• Indoctrinate U
(Evan Coyne Maloney)
• Mine Your Own Business
(Phelim McAleer)
• Expelled: No
Intelligence Allowed

(Ben Stein, Logan Craft,
Walt Ruloff, and John

Real Indie Production
and Distibution

• Moving Picture Institute


• First Installment: The Basic Story
• Hymers' History of Violence

• How Fun Is It To
Be Recruited Into Hymer's
Offbeat Church? Not Very.
• How I Lost My Virginity


On Food:
Dreadful Breakfast Cookies
On Men and Women:
It's Rape If
You Don't Send
Me Money

Women Talk Too Much;
I'll Date Dolphins

Men Are Kinky

Hot Cars,
Hot Girls

On Animation:
—the Commentary

On Religion:
Athiests and
Christians Talking
To Each Other

"Good grammar, and better gin."
—CalTech Girl
"I enjoy Little Miss Attila's essays."
—Venomous Kate
"Joy is good at catching flies with honey."
—Beth C
"Your position is ludicrous, and worthy of ridicule."
—Ace of Spades
—Suburban Blight


Teh Funny—
• Dave Burge
Interesting News Items

Civics Lessons—
Taranto on How a Bill Becomes Law

Editorial Resources—
• Better Editor
• Web on the Web
• Me me me me me! (miss.attila --AT-- gmail --dot-- com)
Cigar Jack

David Linden/
The Accidental Mind

Cognitive Daily

Rive Gauche—
Hip Nerd's Blog
K's Quest
Mr. Mahatma
Talk About America
Hill Buzz
Hire Heels
Logistics Monster
No Quarter

Food & Booze—
Just One Plate (L.A.)
Food Goat
A Full Belly
Salt Shaker
Serious Eats

Things You Should Do
(In the West)

Just One Plate (L.A.)

• Jalopnik
The Truth About Cars

SoCal News—
Foothill Cities

Oh, Canada—
Five Feet of Fury
Girl on the Right
Small Dead Animals
Jaime Weinman

Mary McCann,
The Bone Mama

(formerly in Phoenix, AZ;
now in Seattle, WA;
eclectic music)

Mike Church,
King Dude

(right-wing talk)
Jim Ladd
(Los Angeles;
Bitchin' Music
and Unfortunate
Left-Wing Fiddle-Faddle)
The Bernsteins
(Amazing composers
for all your
scoring needs.
Heh. I said,
"scoring needs.")

Iran, from an Islamic Point of View
and written in beautiful English—

Blogging Away Debt
Debt Kid
Debtors Anonymous
World Services

The Tightwad Gazette

Gentleman Pornographer

More o' Dat
Pop Culture—

Danny Barer
(Animation News) • Something Old,
Nothing New

(And yet more
Animation News)
Sam Plenty
(Cool New
Animation Site!)
The Bernsteins
(Wait. Did I mention
the Bernsteins
already? They're

Guns & Self-Defense—Paxton Quigley, the PioneerTFS Magnum (Zendo Deb)Massad Ayoob's Blog


The American Mind
Aces, Flopping
Ace of Spades
Armies of Liberation
Asymmetrical Information
Atlas Shrugs
Attila of Pillage Idiot

Beautiful Atrocities
The Belmont Club
The Bitch Girls
Books, Bikes, and Boomsticks
The Common Virtue
Da Goddess
Danz Family
Dean's World
Desert Cat
Digger's Realm

Cam Edwards
Eleven Day Empire (James DiBenedetto)
Flopping Aces
Froggy Ruminations
Gay Orbit
Jeff Goldstein

Mary Katherine Ham
At the D.C. Examiner
Hugh Hewitt
Hi. I'm Black.
Iberian Notes
The Irish Lass
In DC Journal
Infinite Monkeys
Intel Dump

Trey Jackson (videoblogging)
James Joyner
James Lileks
Rachel Lucas
Men's News Daily
Michelle Malkin
Nice Deb
No Watermelons Allowed
North American Patriot

On Tap
On the Fritz
On the Third Hand
Outside the Beltway

Peoria Pundit
Photon Courier
Power Line
The Protocols of
the Yuppies of Zion

Protein Wisdom

The Queen of All Evil
Questions and Observations
Right Wing News

Donald Sensing
Rusty Shackleford
The Shape of Days

Sharp as a Marble
Sheila A-Stray
Laurence Simon

Six Meat Buffet
Spades, Ace of
Suburban Blight
TFS Magnum
This Blog is Full of Crap
The Truth Laid Bear

Venomous Kate
The Volokh Conspiracy

Where is Raed?
Write Enough
You Big Mouth, You!


Support our troops; read the Milblogs!

Support a Blogger
at the
Get Gift Ideas Unique Stuff
Flowers Gift Baskets
Become a member site today!