August 12, 2007

The 51% Minority

Beth at My Right Wing Conspiracy just let Ellen Goodman have it over her assertions about the paucity of women in the blogosphere. (Wait. I thought Goodman was only alleging that the leftosphere was sexist. Guess I was wrong . . .)

Yeah. Loved Goodman using support-for-Hillary as a litmus test. The Daily Kos is definitely where I'd go to find centrists of the type who might vote for Hillary. (There is more to a candidate than her internal plumbing, Ellen.)

UPDATE: Juliette tells us where not to go if we want our preconceived notions of an "old boys' bloggers' network" confirmed.

And Sissy Willis thanks us for the trip down memory lane.

Jane Hamsher at FireDogLake defends the leftosphere:

There’s plenty of sexism in the blogosphere, don’t get me wrong, with a strong dose coming from the right wing and an even stronger dose coming from the “why don’t you link to me” crowd on the left. But this “there are no women in the blogosphere” whinge is deeply sexist and insulting to those of us with two X chromosomes who work all day at this and what we’ve managed to achieve. [. . . ] It’s a narrative that both wingnuts and the MSM alike are fond of pushing and my guess is that it’s off to the races thanks to misniformation provided by people who don’t blog, aren’t the community builders of the blogosphere and haven’t had enough exposure to it to have any kind of sophistication to their analysis. With people in the MSM on the receiving end only too willing to erase us women from the political landscape in order to grind their axe, I don’t expect we’ll be getting the kind of credit we deserve any time soon.

Well, Jane, you know: not every wingnut is pushing that same narrative. There are exceptions.

Posted by Attila Girl at August 12, 2007 12:58 PM | TrackBack

Yep, these people (lunatics) are wondering why the NY Times and Boston Globe are loosing readers. More regular folks voting with their wallets. ( Look at what happened with the RNC fund raising.) Maybe someday ellen will have to find honest work.

Posted by: RWB at August 12, 2007 05:54 PM

Forgot to add "Game, Set and Match" to Beth!

Posted by: RWB at August 12, 2007 05:55 PM

Interesting quote from Jane's post:

I’m reminded of Chris Matthews’ comment to Mark Halperin: “So there is a right-wing net roots as well as a left-wing net roots?” People tend to overlook them because of their irrelevance, but they are well trafficked and they do exist.

Very enlightening!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at August 13, 2007 06:39 AM

From the day they trid to coin the term, it's been "Left-Wing Nut Roots". . .They fired back with "Wing Nuts". Political debaters of old started spinning in their graves. But even that has nothing to do with All-Natural Cyclical Global Warming and Cooling.

Posted by: Darrell at August 13, 2007 07:09 AM

There are male bloggers? I didn't know that. I thought it was that "George Sand" thing. Silly me!

I guess I naturally expect women to talk about computers, cars, guns, terrorism, science, politics, economics and such. I must have been spoiled somewhere and somehow. Must be that right-wing thing.

Posted by: Darrell at August 13, 2007 11:28 AM

I saw this article earlier in the week. I kinda figured it would ignite a firestorm.

Posted by: Desert Cat at August 15, 2007 04:21 PM

Jane Hamsher:
To what extent is any mention of gender sexist as some assert that any mention of race is racist?
What is the MSM?
How much misinformation is provided by people that do blog?
How much information is provided by people that do not blog?
Information, misinformation: What is the test? What is the difference? What is the test of the difference? What is the test of the test?

Posted by: Hog Beatty at August 15, 2007 08:13 PM

This should release HB's comment while not endorsing moral relativism. That final test is the one they wail and gnash their teeth over, by the way.

Posted by: Darrell at August 16, 2007 08:46 PM

As a Conservative talk show host, I would ask you if it is wrong for Gay Christianists to wring their dicks out in little boyz butts?

Also, who wants to take a bet that Little Miss Attila is an ugly ugly person. Not just inside, but a two -bagger?

Posted by: Rick Moran at August 17, 2007 05:17 AM

Rick, you lose. But I bet you're used to that, aren't you?

Posted by: Darrell at August 17, 2007 07:35 AM

What I hate is when my trolls cannot decide on the correct spellings of their names: please. Is it Moran, or Moron?

And why, pray tell, would someone call themselves "Moron" when they're trying to impress strangers on the web with their stellar wit?

Note to self: must improve quality of trolls, even if it means trolling my own site.

Note to self: do not let this exercise degenerate into schizophrenia, if at all possible.

Posted by: Attila Girl at August 18, 2007 01:28 PM

Glenn Greenwald beat you to that idea. And since the real Rick Moran, at rightwingnuthouse and other places, seems like a fairly good writer, I suspect that surname 'wordplay' is another example of your troll's 'wit'. Thank goodness you installed that tracking program earlier this year, the one that installs with a click of the 'post' button.

Posted by: Darrell at August 18, 2007 08:05 PM

What a shame—people think they are so anonymous on the internet. What the heck; it'll take a few days for my PI to track this guy down, though . . .

Posted by: Attila Girl at August 18, 2007 08:44 PM

When I read Ellen Goodman's lede, I was amazed at her misunderstanding that the blogosphere was populated entirely by left-wing masculine punditry. Huh? Then came the whine about sexism. Save me, puleeze. A secret: when I started my blog, I realized that the air was full, packed, dense with political ranting of all shades, so I determined that, except for minor local issues, I would blog about all manner of things other than current politics; shoes, ships, sealing wax -- that sort of stuff. Advised a newby friend to take the same course; she wanted to rant; she's not ranting, thank goodness. And so it goes. Let Ellen enjoy her parochialism.

Posted by: GrannyJ at August 19, 2007 11:38 AM

". . .it'll take a few days for my PI to track this guy down, though . . ."

Don't hurt him, Hammer of Thor! On second thought. . .

Posted by: Darrell at August 19, 2007 12:17 PM

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