September 04, 2008

Patterico Reads Sully

. . . so you don't have to. Don't follow the links back, though! (Patterico didn't get the memo on that.)

My favorite Andrew Sullivan contradiction WRT Sarah Palin is that the public supposedly needs to see Trig's birth records, to verify that the baby is her own—but he's apparently appalled that Trig was present last night, used "as a prop" for Palin's campaign. Can't we make up our minds about whether Palin's family life is something that needs to be endlessly discussed in the public sphere?

Veep candidates usually bring their families to conventions. Deal. Next, we're going to be hearing about how awful it is that Bristol isn't wearing a scarlet "A" on her maternity dresses.

Though I think it would be awfully nice if we could lay off of Andrew on the gay thing. Were any of us making a fuss about that when he supported the War on Terror? It's beside the point for most of us, and you know it, Boyz.

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Posted by Attila Girl at September 4, 2008 01:39 PM | TrackBack

BUt AS has seriously gone off his rocker, Attila. Surely you have to admit this. And while we don't exactly know what the root cause of it was, AIDS-related dementia is one of the 'theories' being floated out there. Which he presumably didn't get from injecting drugs using shared needles or from his dentist doing professional teeth work.

Posted by: Gregory at September 4, 2008 05:00 PM

Oh, I'm not talking about whether his craziness is just the regular kind, or truly clinical.

And I have not researched any relationship between AIDS--or medication related to the treatment thereof--and dementia.

But if he is suffering from dementia--or some kind of clinical psychosis--why does that make it okay to throw gay slurs around so freely?

Surely that would make gay-baiting in worse taste.

And I'm not talking about Ace's rhetoric, here: he has a duty--an obligation--to go over the top. I don't think he really means it.

And homosexuality is certainly a blind spot for people like . . . well, Rusty.

But gay slurs rather surprise me, coming from Patrick.

I'm certainly ready to specify that Sullivan's writing is not within the bounds of respectable (or logical) discourse.

Were you able to see any of the American GOP convention from the Far East? If so, what did you think?

Posted by: Attila Girl at September 4, 2008 07:55 PM

I don't know about the Moron-in-Chief, I really don't. He sounded pretty damned serious to me.

But OK, never mind ol' Ace. You were asking about Patterico. I've got an idea Patterico's pretty much fairly incensed at AS right about now. Treating Sarah Palin's children they way he did, plus calling them 'fair game', I suspect Patterico lifted a page out of Ace's handbook and decided that AS's, erm, ass, is 'fair game' too. Hence the 'Glutes' remark. Could be worse. The post you linked to didn't have Patterico write about the 'milky loads' in the main body. So, not complete all-Acey, if there's such a term. And Beldar's kinda mad at AS too.

I won't lose too much sleep over it. It's just your bog-standard juvenile name-calling; just so happens, the facts are documented on Excitable Andy, is all.

Thing is, I never knew (read) a pre-crazy Andy Sullivan. So it's kinda hard for me to judge, you know? I'm just going with the flow and buying me some Pringles, since popcorn doesn't work out all that well in a muggy climate.

Sarahcudda rocks! is what I think :) But the rain washes out my DirecTV :( and Vista's networking troubles rears its ugly head again :(

Posted by: Gregory at September 4, 2008 11:52 PM

I don't believe Ace is really anti-homosexual. I don't believe Patrick is, either. They are both royally pissed off at Sullivan, but it seems to me that this comes about as a result of reading Andrew Sullivan, which is one's first mistake.

Of course, if Patterico didn't have such a strong stomach, he couldn't read the Los Angeles Times and critique it as thoroughly and ruthlessly as he has over the years. So I'm glad that . . . someone's doing it.

But Ace, anti-gay? Doubt it. Patterico, anti-gay? Absolutely not.

They're just fighting dirty--that's all.

Posted by: Attila Girl at September 5, 2008 12:42 AM

Argh. I dunno if my post got eaten or not. Stupid argle bargyle whrgrbl Streamyx broadbandmyass connection.

Just in case it didn't get through, yeah, I read it pretty much the same way. Anti-Andy more than anything else.

Posted by: Gregory at September 5, 2008 08:49 AM

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