September 18, 2008

On That "Palin-Hacking" Case.

This. Is. Where. I. Get off the bus.

God bless you all, but we went after the media pretty hard for messing with a minor in the case of Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter. If this kid is, indeed, 15 years old and troubled, I think he should be prosecuted. But I'm taking the spotlight off of him, and anyone with basic morals should do the same.

And, yes: his mental illness and his age should be taken into account when it's time for sentencing, which must be lenient.

And, yes: what was Sarah thinking? Yahoo? Wasilla High? For a Vice-Presidential candidate? The kid committed a felony, and he stepped over a big line. But Palin should have circled her wagons better than that. (I hope she did, and that she hasn't been actively using the Yahoo account; it could be that this is simply an old account she hadn't had time to delete. We know that there wasn't anything "juicy" on it, so it might be that she just ran out of time.)

UPDATE: Okay. Make that a 20-year-old, mentally unstable chess fanatic. I've been there myself, except for the chess. And the felony.

But, really—can we get away from the "lynch mob" mentality, here?

Posted by Attila Girl at September 18, 2008 02:44 PM | TrackBack

He's just one of many. Everyone, including those that accepted stolen property(for financial gain), should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Posted by: Darrell at September 18, 2008 04:38 PM

Granted. But it'll bring me no pleasure when he goes behind bars--especially if he isn't accompanied by the others.

Posted by: Attila Girl at September 18, 2008 04:41 PM

Really? It would give me extreme pleasure to see him and a few dozen others takin' it from Bubba. Not from the thought of them actually gettin it from Bubba, precisely...

... Ah, heck. Never mind that. I don't have enough sleep and it's a Friday. I dunno what I'm saying. But. Are you saying that Yahoo! ian't good enough for Gov Palin? Feeling a little elitist today, are we? :)

Come on. It's free, it's convenient, it can be used just about everywhere - and, here's the thing, it was used SOLELY for personal reasons, as far as can be ascertained.

I suppose you could use something like Hushmail or similar, but seriously - it's got a 5MB inbox, iirc. Just checked. TWO MB. Yahoo? Unlimited.

Posted by: Gregory at September 18, 2008 05:16 PM

Personal plus a few "administrative" emails.

It sounds like she was appropriately circumspect, though.

I don't know why the other side is claiming that we need an e-mail-savvy President: it's pretty clear why our intel people and/or the Secret Service don't allow our highest officials to use it.

But you know how you and the rest of Ace's crew claim to be "morons"? Have any of you committed a felony, and then bragged about it online?

Posted by: Attila Girl at September 18, 2008 05:39 PM

Why is it wrong to call for the prosecution of an adult who broke the law in an attempt to find something, anything to smear an innocent woman, and when he failed to find something, posted her and her family's private information up for everyone to see?

I think it's high time we held democrats to the same code of laws we have to uphold.

The only shameful thing I see is that the elected democrats like Obama get away with treason (literal, not figurative) while the kids they've helped brainwash foot the bill.

Posted by: Tim G. at September 18, 2008 07:40 PM

You know, this thing bugs me more and more the longer I think about it.

There's no real such thing as 'secure' email. The infrastructure required is that everyone (and I mean everyone) has digital certs. Bloody expensive if you buy 'em from Verisign, you can (or could) get 'em at no cost from Thawte, but it's not as if you get them automatically.

Never mind that. Why are people making a whole lot of fuss over the content of her email? No problems? Let's move on to inappropriate use. WTF?

Let's talk about normal snail mail. Personal correspondence gets sent to my office. All the time. The office doesn't care.

Let's talk about email. My work email sometimes is inaccesible to me, and occasionally my attachments are too large to be sent out (or received). So I default to my GMail. People do this all the time.

And nowhere is there to be seen any kind of Watergate-class time bomb waiting to go off in her Yahoo! account, suggesting that Gov Palin knows not to use it for anything sensitive.

It's seriously bugging me.

/hobo-hunting is probably a felony ;) It's not as if licenses were applied for, or bag limits were observed...

Posted by: Gregory at September 18, 2008 07:45 PM

More to go. They have have to find the characters that hacked into Bristol's cell phone accts.--maybe those of others in the family, too. A few weeks ago, the Dems put up Sarah's personal information, remember? They might have gortten her drivers license and SS No. They put it up to make things easier for hackers. MM made a reference to that race where a Dem got a hold of the opposition's credit reports. Oh, right, a STAFFER got hold of the records, on his own.

This would be a good test case to put an end to this nonsense right here and right now! Following terrorists' calls to US numbers? BAD. Violating the privacy of political opponents? GOOD.

Posted by: Darrell at September 18, 2008 08:14 PM

Well, you're right. I hate to resort to legislation, but I almost think it would help in some of these arenas--involving minors in a Presidential campaign, for instance. There was one rule for Amy Carter, and then another rule for Chelsea Clinton, and now it's gone back the other way.

In this particular case, we have the law. The law says it's a felony. The kid knew it. It's a Federal rap.

This kid presents a pretty pathetic figure. But he broke a Federal law, crossed a legal line--as well as the online code about not dicking with people's privacy unnecessarily--and he should be punished.

However. (1) Unlike the crew at AOS, I'm not either hoping he gets sodomized in prison, or pretending to hope that for the sake of a joke (although a couple of those cheap shots are surprisingly good).

(2) I do think Palin can make some political hay by rising above this, as she has all the other shit that's been thrown at her and her family.

The lower the opposition stoops, the better she looks.

Posted by: Attila Girl at September 18, 2008 08:58 PM

Real community service, like spending a few months cleaning up the mess in Houston and the Gulf. I mean shoveling the sewage and household debris out of basements and scrubbing up with bleach/Lysol solutions. Ten hours per day. Jail for making a joke out of it.

If he was smart, he'd start right now. Sarah might just drop by to help for a few hours.

Posted by: Darrell at September 18, 2008 09:22 PM

Might not be the guy after all. Stay tuned...

But whoever it is needs to learn maturity, and PDQ too.

Sarah Palin can publicly forgive him, and then throw him to the prosecutors afterwards. That would be the Christian thing to do - forgive, but face the natural consequences.

Posted by: Gregory at September 18, 2008 10:09 PM

The infrastructure required is that everyone (and I mean everyone) has digital certs. Bloody expensive if you buy 'em from Verisign, you can (or could) get 'em at no cost from Thawte, but it's not as if you get them automatically.

Now, why would you go and do a fool thing like that? this is precisely what PGP was developed for. You can find additional reading at .

The downside? no one will use it, it is still too cumbersome and inconvenient. Besides, you'll still have lusers using weak passwords, or providing obvious hints.

Yes, Sarah, I am looking at you.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 19, 2008 08:58 AM

Public Key Cryptography. Indeed. PGP. Indeed.

For those who are wondering what IRADA and I are talking about, PubKeyCrypt is an asymmetric encryption framework, where the 'key' (actually a very large prime) used to encrypt the message is different from the key to decrypt it. The encrypting key is your private key, which you keep on a thumbdrive that goes everywhere with you, and the decrypting key you put out into teh intarwebs - the more widespread the better.

The whole issue with any PKI has always been that of authentication, trust and verification of identity. PGP wouldn't help you there at all - you still need either a web of trust system, which is all but impractical for any kind of large-scale communications medium such as email, or rely on the current CA scheme. Hence, digital certificates from VeriSign, or Thawte, or the Hong Kong Post Office. Or, in my case, the IRS. Yes, they issue digital certs for online tax filing.

Posted by: Gregory at September 19, 2008 09:51 AM

Turns out the hacker's dad is a democrat state representative from Memphis. Anybody remember a two-bit burglary in DC in 1972? Water...something, I think.

Posted by: Dan Smith at September 19, 2008 10:23 AM

Dan, we don't know whether or not papa put him up to it.

Let's keep our powder dry.

Gregory, I'll re-read your latest comment tonight. Somehow here at the auto shop it made my eyes glaze over, big-time.

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