October 13, 2008

Sean of New York (and Tokyo!)

Meditates on socialized medicine, and its friends and relatives:

Having lived in Japan for twelve years and had several friends who (unlike me) work in health care, I had a lot of lively discussions about the relative merits of socialized medicine. What always drove me crazy was when people talked as if the money for health care weren't going to have to come from somewhere. There's plenty of great health care available in Japan, but stories have surfaced recently about patients' being turned away or dumped by hospitals, and about desperate Japanese who travel to China for organ transplants. One doesn't want to be like the NYT Style Section and inflate every clutch of three colorful anecdotes into a Major Trend, but the aging society does mean that there will be fewer workers supporting more geriatric patients in short order. Everyone is worried.

Of course, that's a practical, not philosophical, problem. Whittle writes,

Constitutional rights protect us from things: intimidation, illegal search and seizure, self-incrimination, and so on. The revolutionary idea of our Founding Fathers was that people had a God-given right to live as they saw fit. Our constitutional rights protect us from the power of government.

But these new so-called "rights" are about the government — who the Founders saw as the enemy — giving us things: food, health care, education... And when we have a right to be given stuff that previously we had to work for, then there is no reason — none — to go and work for them. The goody bag has no bottom, except bankruptcy and ruin.

And, of course, when the government is in charge of giving out goodies, it gets to set priorities and trade-offs for individuals. Is your need for a procedure "urgent"? What's an acceptable minimum for "quality of life"? Would you prefer to buy less health coverage and more of something else you value more highly? What happens when functionaries start telling fat people they don't deserve bypass surgery because they've spent their lives tunneling through five Entenmann's cakes a week?

Not, I hasten to add, that the current American system is anywhere near perfect...but then, neither is it a free-market system.

Just corrupt, is all—and not all it could be. Yet far, far, better than socialized medicine. More likely to let me decide which goodies are best for me. Which I should have, and which I do not want.

Read the whole thing, and follow over to Whittle's piece, while you're at it.

Posted by Attila Girl at October 13, 2008 02:47 AM | TrackBack
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Yes to Socialized Economy, no to socialized medicine, If it helps the banks its Ok to compromise your philosophy, If it helps main street, well then the free market gets in the way. Dope Stupid brain!

Posted by: azmat hussain at October 13, 2008 02:44 PM


Think of it as a lawsuit settlement, Azmat. Congress made banks set aside free-market rules. Now the country pays a penalty to keep vital institutions from going under as a result. Sounds fair, doesn't it?
Carter and Clinton should have had the balls to institute the social engineering directly and let the taxpayers decide whether to give them another term or send them home. Cowards always make their charitable contributions from someone else's wallet.

Azmat is proof that Obama's words are meaningless. Why would he support someone who would take unilateral, deadly action against Pakistan? He wouldn't.

And now that you are in Canada, how's that socialized medicine working out? Too early to tell?

I'll end with some words that are sure to become Azmat's favorites--

"But you say that money is made by the strong at the expense of the weak? What strength do you mean? It is not the strength of guns or muscles. Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think. Then is money made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not invent it? Is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the fools? By the able at the expense of the incompetent? By the ambitious at the expense of the lazy? Money is made- before it can be looted or mooched – made by the effort of every honest man, each to the extent of his ability. An honest man is one who knows that he can’t consume more than he has produced. " Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged--as 'spoken' by the character of Francisco d'Anconia.

Posted by: Darrell at October 13, 2008 07:24 PM


The countries vital institution's in case you have been asleep have gotten where they are because of the crisis in health care. And just like you cannot see human resources and their health as vital to health of the economy, so is the case with many American institutions. Secondly, why would I care about anyone taking action against Taliban's as if that is not being done already?
There are many ways to misinterpret Rand, and clearly Darrell her work is not for you. I have one for you as well. "The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it." Now take some responsibility for the evil you create.

Posted by: azmat hussain at October 14, 2008 11:52 AM


So it was all caused by a crisis in health care? I did not know that. You could have chosen Cuba instead of Canada and had a mouthful of cement fillings by now.

I'll leave the misinterpretation to you.

I did not create you. I give you no sanction. Diabolus enim et alii dæmones a Deo quidem naturâ creati sunt boni, sed ipsi per se facti sunt mali.

Posted by: Darrell at October 14, 2008 01:49 PM


"Devil and the other demons are spiritual or angelic creatures created by God in a state of innocence, and that they became evil by their own act" So it is by your actions that you become evil Darrell. And I thought that Angels did not have the power to act on their own.

Posted by: Azmat Hussain at October 16, 2008 03:05 PM




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